Даже если такой онлайн-журнал, как Metalship, и начинает пользоваться хорошей репутацией в сети, то мы  по-прежнему остаемся, прежде всего, любителями. А когда нам выпадает возможность взять интервью у группы, которую мы любим – это как исполнение детской мечты. Было непросто, но получить эксклюзивное интервью Тило Вольфа, лидера Лакримозы, чтобы пройтись вместе с ним по тем 20 годам, что длится его карьера – это как некое достижение, огромное облегчение, тем более что он оказался очень приятным человеком, так же как и его команда из Hall of Sermon – его собственного лейбла. Что ж, мы совершим путешествие во времени, останавливаясь на некоторых памятных датах и альбомах этой группы международного масштаба, которую во Франции отчего-то игнорируют. Попробуй пойми почему…

Привет, Анне, Тило. Что вы сейчас чувствуете, спустя 20 лет после дебюта Лакримозы?

ТИЛО ВОЛЬФ: Прекрасно, большое спасибо! Никогда не думал о возможности играть музыку в течение всего этого времени и при этом постоянно быть в сопровождении наших фанатов по всему миру. И еще, даже если завтра мы решим остановиться, то Лакримоза всё равно продолжит существовать ещё долгое время благодаря тому вдохновению, которое наша группа придала многим другим музыкантам и направлениям в метале, готике или роке.

Тило, тебе было 18 лет, когда ты создал Лакримозу и Hall of Sermon. Почему ты создал свой собственный лейбл? Чтобы избежать проблем с распространением?

ТИЛО ВОЛЬФ: Нет, я хотел быть независимым. Понимаешь, у лейблов есть столько людей, которые говорят тебе, что нужно делать, а что – нет. И с так называемой независимой сценой всё точно так же. А я не хотел, чтобы кто-то, кто не дал ни одного концерта и не написал даже паршивой песенки, указывал мне, что я должен делать. И тогда я создал собственный лейбл.

Angst был выпущен в 1991 году. Как бы ты сам описал свой стиль и как ты к нему пришёл? И почему ты поёшь на немецком, хотя английский  — более употребительный?

ТИЛО ВОЛЬФ: Я прибегаю к немецкому, своему родному языку, не задумываясь о коммерческой составляющей или маркетинге. Мне всегда хотелось передать через музыку свои эмоции, а по мне, лучший способ для этого – это писать на том языке, который я знаю лучше всего. Никогда не пытался копировать другие группы, другие стили. Почему? Это уже есть, есть много вещей, которые я слушаю, и которые мне нравятся, но зачем мне делать нечто похожее? Я уже никогда не вернусь к уже существующему, зато я могу создать, развить свой собственный стиль, и я делаю это. А вот определить или как-то назвать стиль Лакримозы я не могу, так как он перекликается со многими музыкальными жанрами.

Тило Вольф Лакримоза Анне Нурми Lacrimosa SaturaВ Satura раскрывается влияние метала. Что тебе импонирует в этом стиле и почему ты использовал его для Лакримозы?

ТИЛО ВОЛЬФ: Я всегда слушал и метал, и готику. На мой вкус, готика слишком мягкая, а метал – недостаточно эмоционален. Поэтому я решил создать тяжелую и эмоциональную музыку.

На Inferno мы натыкаемся на Copycat, особенная песня для Лакримоза. Можешь нам рассказать о ней? Почему она была переведена на английский?
ТИЛО ВОЛЬФ: Некоторые выражения не работают на немецком. Видишь ли, немецкий язык такой же богатый и цветистый, как и французский, но он может быть грубым. И иногда бывает забавно слышать, как кто-то поет в такой манере, это не естественно. Понимаешь, о чём я? И если того требует песня, а выражения на немецком неуклюжи, я прибегаю к английскому языку.

В 1999 ты выдаёшь потрясающую Elodia. Расскажи нам об этом поистине очень сильном с точки зрения эмоций альбоме.
ТИЛО ВОЛЬФ: Это определённо особенный альбом в нашей истории! И не только потому, что, на мой взгляд, его композиции особенные. Просто он же мог стать и смертным приговором как для Лакримозы, так и для Hall of Sermon. Выпуск Elodia оказался очень дорогим, и, в конце концов, у меня почти не осталось денег и мне пришлось продавать всё, что у меня было, чтобы закончить его. У меня ничего не оставалось, не было дома, почти нечего есть, у меня не было ни гроша. И если бы этот альбом провалился, я не знаю, что бы со мной стало…

Два года спустя ты предложишь миру Fassade, тоже довольно необычный альбом. В нем также присутствует тема любви, но несколько с другой точки зрения, более «социальной». Каким ты его видишь сейчас, девять лет спустя.

ТИЛО ВОЛЬФ: Исключительный альбом, потому что он единственный, где Лакримоза затрагивает социальные проблемы нашего общества. Я и сегодня обожаю его слушать, по-прежнему остаюсь в гармонии с каждым словом, каждой фразой, которую я смог написать и произнести тогда. Довольно тяжелый альбом. Чтобы послушать его мне нужны время и ощущение покоя. Это больше, чем просто альбом.Ты играешь вместе с оркестрами и хорами. Как ты с ними работаешь?
ТИЛО ВОЛЬФ: Всё упирается в процесс создания альбома. Прежде всего, я пишу все оркестровые части и мы приступаем к репетициям. Параллельно, я записываю основу – ударные, гитару, бас. А потом мы проходимся по всему этому с дирижером оркестра. Сейчас я предпочитаю записываться частями, начиная со струнных инструментов, затем переходя к духовым. А в конце мы записываем хор.

Lichtjahre доказал, что у Лакримозы очень хорошая репутация во многих странах… А что во Франции?
ТИЛО ВОЛЬФ: Не знаю… Если говорить лично обо мне, то я неплохо провожу здесь время, отпуск, в том числе и в Париже. Но я уже слышал людей, которые говорят, что не любят немецкий язык и, как следствие, не слушают и Лакримозу.

Можем ли мы надеяться на ваш концерт во Франции в обозримом будущем?
ТИЛО ВОЛЬФ: Я бы с удовольствием снова сыграл во Франции! Я действительно был бы счастлив снова здесь оказаться, потому что мне хорошо в этой стране. Но, к сожалению, у нас нет предложений от промоутеров организовать здесь концерт… увы.

Schattenspiel – не типичный best of. Можешь пояснить, что ты хотел сделать (и да, я слышал эту оркестровую версию Copycat!)?
ТИЛО ВОЛЬФ: (смеётся) Да, я хотел предложить нечто особенное тем, благодаря кому всё это стало возможным, благодаря кому мы можем отпраздновать наше 20-летие. Понимаешь, когда группа просто выпускает best of, то, значит, ей по барабану на фанатов, потому что у них уже есть все эти альбомы. В таком случае группа рассчитывает с помощью компиляции самых известных своих песен привлечь тех людей, кто о ней до этого ничего не знал. Я же хотел преподнести нечто особенное своим фанатам, а не тем, у кого нет ничего общего с Лакримозой. Так что мы покопались в наших архивах и нашли там песни, которые в какой-то момент по каким-то причинам не были использованы. И тогда я создал два сингла специально к юбилею.

Есть ли новости относительно нового альбома?
ТИЛО ВОЛЬФ: Да, у меня много идей и некоторые я уже начал записывать. Рискну заявить, что новый альбом станет большим сюрпризом. До этого каждый новый альбом Лакримозы был маленькой революцией, новый же станет грандиозным переворотом!

Нельзя, говоря о Лакримозе, не упомянуть обложки ее альбомов. Представишь нам Штелио Диамантопулоса и расскажешь, как вы вместе работаете?
ТИЛО ВОЛЬФ: Штелио – греческий художник, который живёт в Швейцарии. Мы встретились благодаря нашей общей страсти к сюрреализму. До этого он уже рисовал на протяжении нескольких лет для метал-группы Victory. Я спросил его, не мог бы он воплотить одну из моих идей в качестве иллюстрации для обложки нашего первого альбома. Это была рождественская ярмарка для Angst. А потом он вернулся с этой потрясающей картиной. После этого я стал постоянно записывать свои идеи к предстоящему альбому или пытаться выразить на словах те эмоции, которые я хотел бы передать через музыку и слова, а он, исходя из этого, делал новые обложки.

Наше интервью подходит к концу. Огромное спасибо за время, что уделил нам, и за твое терпение. Хотел бы ты что-то пожелать своим французским фанатам?
ТИЛО ВОЛЬФ: Да, спасибо за всё ваше терпение, ожидание того, когда мы, наконец, приедем во Францию. Я, правда, надеюсь на то, что Лакримоза сможет играть во Франции чаще. Так странно – мы так много гастролируем по Азии и Латинской Америке, но мы испытываем такие сложности, чтобы иметь возможность сыграть в соседних со Швейцарией странах!

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